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TrulyDexterous | Posted 10/6/2009 12:16:18 AM | message detail |
I like the Genesis. |
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Games | Posted 10/6/2009 12:29:09 AM | message detail |
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Might as well combine my posts from the NES Project. Sega Master System - There was a project for this, but more people focused on the NES Project and this kinda died. One or Two users think that it would be more successful if the board focuses on it without any other project to interfere. Could also lead VERY EASILY to a GameGear project. Genesis - Has a wide selection of games that the SNES also has to allow an easy convergence onto a SNES project, with less Japanese-Only games to contend with. This seems to be the most popular from what I have seen, but I would want the Master System completed first. SNES - Only successful project so far is it's predecessor, the NES project. Like the other consoles, most of the games are easily accessible and you still have a transition to the Genesis project, if wanted. GameBoy/GameBoy Colour - It always gets mentioned as another project that failed in the past. Same sort of reasons as the Master System, but it seems to have a bit more support. This apparently failed for various reasons, although the only one I heard is that the NES project got in it's way. Playstation - A very popular console, but obtaining some games may make this project very hard, if not impossible. Cartridge consoles seem to get more support that a Disc console because of the ability to get some rare games easier. Famicom Gaming System - While it is a console related to the NES, it is not that good of a choice. Every game is Japanese and it does not have a big fan-base, like the other consoles mentioned. Console Name All Regions NA JP EU Sega Master System (SMS) 155 / 325 (47%) 68 / 115 (59%) 48 / 84 (57%) 139 / 269 (51%) Genesis 390 / 942 (41%) 353 / 715 (49%) 191 / 451 (42%) 274 / 529 (51%) SNES 720 / 1833 (39%) 417 / 726 (57%) 573 / 1511 (37%) 248 / 411 (60%) Game Boy 277 / 1061 (26%) 228 / 525 (43%) 194 / 774 (25%) 99 / 176 (56%) Game Boy Colour 194 / 909 (21%) 164 / 458 (35%) 92 / 463 (19%) 113 / 372 (30%) Playstation 1000 / 4281 (23%) 665 / 1350 (49%) 680 / 3256 (20%) 632 / 1406 (44%) Famicom Disk System 90 / 199 (45%) --- 90 / 199 (45%) --- I would love to see the Master System completed personally. The main reason is that it was a major competitor to NES and I grew up with Sonic, Sega and the Master System. SMS has the second least amount of games (Famicom has less, but all are JP), with only 17 of the games left being JP exclusive, 1 of the games being a Korea exclusive, 18 being a South America exclusive and no Asia exclusives. I have also played 1 of the JP exclusives (Solomon's Key), which could easily be converted from the NES version of the game. --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
vinheim | Posted 10/6/2009 12:32:18 AM | message detail |
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I like Genesis too, but let's wait for the NES one to end, so we
can focus on another Completion Project. And since all the NES games
(or most of them) that don't have a FAQ are japanese (and I just know a
little bit of it), I think I'll just wait for another Project to start. --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
TrulyDexterous | Posted 10/6/2009 12:48:19 AM | message detail |
| Well yeah, but I think this is a good time to discuss this, rather than when the NES project "ends". I mean, there are so many JP games left for NES and so few authors who write for them. Of course it will be nice when the NES project is done, but what do people do in the mean time? |
vinheim | Posted 10/6/2009 12:54:21 AM | message detail |
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That's a good point. I mean, I wanted to be part of the NES
project, but I can't. If there's another one, maybe some other authors can
work on it while the NES project is done, then move out to the current one. --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
Games | Posted 10/6/2009 12:58:35 AM | message detail |
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Like TD, I'm starting to think they should start up another CP
now. My reasoning is to encourage more writers to contribute to them. I
can see why people would shy away from Japanese Completion Projects, due
to their requirement of needed to know Japanese (not write, just read).
With an English/Japanese Completion Project, you can satisfy both types of
gamers. It may help the NES Project if there site had a list of games that could be played without the knowledge of Japanese to try and get some more Contributors, but I doubt it will encourage more people than a console with NA/EU games. I am still contributing to the NES Project (not much, but a guide is Contributing), but that will stop as soon as I need to know Japanese to follow a game that has not been covered. When that's done, I'm turning my attention to another console Completion. The console will depend on a new Completion Project and/or my willingness to write guides for the games left (Nintendo requires me to learn how to play games, while Sega does not (as much)). --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
Games | Posted 10/6/2009 1:04:08 AM | message detail |
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If we get a general agreement to a new Completion Project (CP),
I will host the progress on my site (although, I doubt I will host the
topics). However, it will not look as good as the NES Project's website and
be kept to a single page. I would prefer a SMS CP, but will settle for a Genesis one instead if half the board agrees to that CP to be the next focus. --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
vinheim | Posted 10/6/2009 1:06:10 AM | message detail |
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WE need to see what the rest of the board thinks about this, and
maybe make a Sticky to start it. And if we can "host" it in your site,
even better --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
Eternal_Debate | Posted 10/6/2009 1:08:23 AM | message detail |
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There are games that can still be FAQ'd for the NES without
knowing any Japanese. I was working on the Spy v Spy game, but to be
honest, the only japanese in the entire game seems to be in the title of the
game. Anyone that is interested can take over this game - could probably
write a guide for this in a day easily, I just don't have a working
computer at home any more to be able to play it. Doubt I will any time soon either. As for the next project, I think the Genesis would get the most support behind it. However, SMS IS the easiest one to do though and in my opinion the best choice. A fair percentage of the games for it are relatively short, they are nearly all accessible as Games mentioned, with few foreign language games and quite a few games are multi platform - helping out any future completion projects. Worth taking a look at for anybody that hasn't tried the system. --- ~ Ringworm ~ |
PhazonMouthWash | Posted 10/6/2009 2:13:49 AM | message detail |
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I don't really see the hurt in having two or three completion
projects going all at once. If the NES project is any indication, pretty
much all the work is being done by the same group of FAQers and they'll
just work on whatever they like, so no loss in the end. As I do in every topic like this, I put my vote to GB/C, which could easily move into a GBA project. Copy and paste from NES topic: The one huge problem with that is Japan only games. Many GB/GBC games were Japan only and released in small quantities on top of that. A great deal of these games will require emulation, many of which will be impossible to find. In fact, there is one game I've been working on an FAQ for for a while now. I know mine will be the only one ever made for it as it took me damn near seven years just to find a slightly glitchy ROM. --- This account is an alt of JellySoup, so that he might submit works from the awesome campus computers instead of his lame home computer. |
vinheim | Posted 10/6/2009 3:07:04 AM | message detail |
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I'd like the GB/C too, but the problem with it is that there are
a lot of JAP games, and not many authors know
japanese --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
ACowWithaDS | Posted 10/6/2009 3:22:52 AM | message detail |
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I would also like a GB/C/A project, as I have already
contributed to those and have another incomplete guide up which will get done a
lot quicker if there was a project going for it at the
moment. Japanese is going to be a problem language with just about every CP that will ever be done. Can't really worry much about that. There will be guides being done for those as the English guides are covered, and just like what is happening to the NES, only Japanese games will be left and they will slowly get covered. |
vinheim | Posted 10/6/2009 4:08:13 AM | message detail |
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Looks like the CP that will be next is either a GB/C/A one or a Genesis; although looks like the GB/C/A has more supporters. I'll
go with any CP. ) --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
jelly soup | Posted 10/6/2009 5:38:11 AM | message detail |
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^^^ Returning to my earlier point, if there is a tie between GB/C/A and Genesis, why not have both projects at the same time. If the split is THAT clear, I can't see that much is being taken from either side. --- http://backloggery.com/jellysoup "Work is the best antidote to sorrow." - Sherlock Holmes |
Games | Posted 10/6/2009 10:31:53 AM | message detail |
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Japanese is going to be a problem language with just about
every CP that will ever be done. But not every CP. BBC Micro and Acorn Archimedes are two examples that I can think of that will have NO language problems, but then they have location and data problems. Returning to my earlier point, if there is a tie between GB/C/A and Genesis, why not have both projects at the same time CPs that were run alongside the NES CP failed in the past because everyone focussed on the NES CP. It gets cited EVERY time this topic gets created as a reason not to start a new one until the NES CP is completed. If we start both the Genesis and GB (Not GB/C/A, as that is 3 CPs, NOT 1) CPs, one will most likely fail due to the other gaining all the support and you will end up with another SMS-type CP situation. I am for creating a new CP, but against having multiple CPs (excluding NES and the new CP). I want to attempt to produce a game for every console (where possible), so I will contribute to any CP. However, I would prefer SMS or Genesis (or even a CP that is POSSIBLE to complete) over the GB/C/A CP (when did Advanced start getting added to this CP?) --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
brian sulpher | Posted 10/6/2009 5:37:52 PM | message detail |
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If you can get a solid core of writers together (like the NES
project did early on), then another project could run at the same time.
However, it would eb hard for writers to work on two or more of these
projects at a time, so the NES project would likely remain too strong to be
pushed aside easily. --- 77 FAQs for games never covered at www.GameFAQs.com. Redemption is only three fights away |
vinheim | Posted 10/6/2009 6:14:47 PM | message detail |
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If you can get a solid core of writers together (like the NES
project did early on), then another project could run at the same time Well, count me in the Genesis/GB CP. --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
OscilloHero | Posted 10/6/2009 7:05:39 PM | message detail |
| I'm down for Genesis. |
Devin Morgan | Posted 10/6/2009 7:11:32 PM | message detail |
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"I can't" is not a reason for avoiding helping the NES project.
What makes you more able to help with say, the SMS or GB/C then? >_> For those who are arguing that the NES has a lot of Japanese games left, have some of you noticed that a few of the authors (myself included) don't actually KNOW Japanese fluently enough, yet are able to get by quite nicely on VERY basic knowledge? It's not that hard, given the technology and sheer amount of resources out there (you'd be surprised at the site me and Da Hui found a few months back which would be VERY helpful in covering games without a full FAQ on this site yet). That's just an example of what I'm talking about. Also, for historical mention (though Games mentioned it already), every single attempt at a non-NES completion project in the last 5 years has failed. For good reason too (usually due to a lack of interest/sustained support). I ran the GB/GBC site as well for a time, but basically the project died since there was only 1-2 people even doing anything for it, so we voted to remove the site. Given the current trends, I'm not seeing any significant change to indicate that such a project would be successful now (or any others for that matter). One last note, do not discuss actual ROMs here or you will be moderated (take notes on how we conduct our discussions in the NES topics). Fair warning... --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 NES FAQ Completion Project: http://faqs.retronintendo.com |
Games | Posted 10/6/2009 7:22:18 PM | message detail |
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(you'd be surprised at the site me and Da Hui found a few
months back which would be VERY helpful in covering games without a full
FAQ on this site yet) This may be interesting. Could you post a link to this site/is it safe (and legal) to use? --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
TrulyDexterous | Posted 10/6/2009 8:07:14 PM | message detail |
| That's a fair point Devin, but I can't imagine it's very fun to FAQ those games. This is after all, something we should do for enjoyment. |
Devin Morgan | Posted 10/6/2009 8:19:10 PM | message detail |
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strategywiki.org is the site. Keep in mind we have used it for
NES games in the past (we, being myself and Da Hui, possibly others). --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 NES FAQ Completion Project: http://faqs.retronintendo.com |
vinheim | Posted 10/6/2009 8:27:24 PM | message detail |
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That's a good site Devin. It's pretty complete for the older
consoles, but not so much from the newer (that being the PS2, GC, etc) --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into=20 reality. |
Games | Posted 10/6/2009 8:46:17 PM | message detail |
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Thanks. It may be useful if some people here have a look at it
and attempt one or two NES games, if they wish to help the current CP. I may check it out to see what information it has on Gyrodine. --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
Games | Posted 10/6/2009 8:54:25 PM | message detail |
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Checked out it. Littlie info on Geimos and Gyrodine, so I will
need to keep playing Gyrodine until it either starts to loop or has ann
ending screen. --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
BHodges080 | Posted 10/6/2009 11:15:58 PM | message detail |
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I think the N64's relatively small library makes it a good
candidate for a project. If one or more new projects do end up being started, I would be willing to set up/maintain a site for one. Brian |
vinheim | Posted 10/7/2009 4:23:06 AM | message detail |
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I already have several games for Genesis I wanna FAQ for --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into=20 reality. |
llamaman2 | Posted 10/8/2009 1:59:34 AM | message detail |
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I just want to chime in for the GB/C project. I submitted a good
2 guides in a short amount of time and there are plenty of easy to
FAQ games out there. I would support any project but my favored would be the
GB/C. --- Wake Forest Fan Guitar Hero World Tour Wii Code: 1676-6896-6007 |
vinheim | Posted 10/8/2009 2:54:11 AM | message detail |
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I like the GB/C too, but the problem I see it has it's that
there's still a ton of games that need a FAQ (784 games) while the Genesis
has less than that (552 games). Besides, there're less JP games for
the Genesis than for the GB, making the Genesis easier to tackle, at
least right now. --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
llamaman2 | Posted 10/8/2009 4:45:32 AM | message detail |
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I think that a SMS project would be a better starting point than
the Genesis though. Thare are less than 200 games un-FAQ'd, less than
50 of them released in Japan (only 17 Japan only). Not to mention this
would remove the Genesis' predecessor and there would be a logical
progression from the SMS. --- Wake Forest Fan Guitar Hero World Tour Wii Code: 1676-6896-6007 |
vinheim | Posted 10/8/2009 5:07:02 AM | message detail |
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^^ That works out too. There aren't that many games that need a
FAQ and there aren't many JP games too. I think we could start with
this, then proceed to the Genesis and so on. That's what I think (llamaman too) though. --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
Joni Philips | Posted 10/8/2009 5:26:40 AM | message detail |
| Just to give my two cents as a former SMS CPer: it wasn't a hard project, most games can be covered in less than a week and despite the competition of the NES CP we managed to knock off 50 games of the list. (About 15%) It also has good synergy with the NES project. For instance: Chase HQ is one SMS game that still needs a guide. The game also has a NES version with a guide so it would be relatively easy to check out the game and put out an updated version of the guide. |
TrulyDexterous | Posted 10/8/2009 2:21:33 PM | message detail |
| I wouldn't be against the SMS. |
brian sulpher | Posted 10/8/2009 2:43:35 PM | message detail |
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SMS does make the most sense for a mainly english reading based
author pool. --- 77 FAQs for games never covered at www.GameFAQs.com. Redemption is only three fights away |
ffmasterjose | Posted 10/8/2009 4:52:17 PM | message detail |
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I consider myself a lone crusader for the Nintendo DS Completion
Project >_> I might just switch over to Gameboy Advance, y'know, since new games aren't coming out for that system every week and whatnot. . |
vinheim | Posted 10/8/2009 6:03:39 PM | message detail |
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Man, I'm getting all hyped up! --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |
TrulyDexterous | Posted 10/8/2009 10:13:49 PM | message detail |
| It appears the tide has turned... |
Games | Posted 10/8/2009 10:18:57 PM | message detail |
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Also looks like it will be the project I want the most. XD --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
Games | Posted 10/9/2009 12:47:53 AM | message detail |
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Couple of points/ideas that I would like to respond to/bring up 1) Brian mentioned earlier about him hosting the next Completion Project on a website. I would back him maintaining the list, due to the only other person (me) offering to do this is rubbish at web design. 2) Are we going to have a "claim" system like the NES Project? If we are, I would like to request that any "claim" be limited to 1 year to complete the game, and they would have to "reclaim" it every year so we know they are still interested in FAQing the game. It would basically be a year booking instead of an outright claim.. 3) Would we be including the games that would be very hard to FAQ in English with a legal copy? This would be purely subjective and may cause more arguments, but could allow the GB/C CPs to work in a sense. Although, it may stop games like Solomon's (SP) Key from being covered in the SMS project (which it could easily be done with a legal copy). Anyway, the main point of this post is to suggest that we improve the ideas brought from the NES CP to make a better and more "friendly" CP. --- Allow GameFAQ users to Track Guides by signing this petition - www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=44545278 |
jelly soup | Posted 10/9/2009 2:17:42 AM | message detail |
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If we are, I would like to request that any "claim" be
limited to 1 year to complete the game, and they would have to "reclaim" it
every year so we know they are still interested in FAQing the
game. I like this idea. It would help in keeping track of who is doing what (a problem I had a month or three ago in the NES project). --- http://backloggery.com/jellysoup "Work is the best antidote to sorrow." - Sherlock Holmes |
llamaman2 | Posted 10/9/2009 3:00:28 AM | message detail |
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If it's possible it would be nice to have the site broken down
similar to the NES site, with a list of competed, incomplete, and maybe
some kind of stats page. Also, all games should be on the list, whether or
not it is feasible to obtain a copy. It wouldn't be a completion project if
we left off some games. --- Wake Forest Fan Guitar Hero World Tour Wii Code: 1676-6896-6007 |
Tutankoopa | Posted 10/9/2009 4:03:20 AM | message detail |
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I miss the old GB/GBC project. I submitted a few guides for that
project too. I would be up for a Genesis project though. --- "Bob, wheres yo mind at?" - Mark Wilkins from Resident Evil Outbreak Baltimore Orioles: 64-98 | Baltimore Ravens:=20 3-1 |
DarkstarRipclaw | Posted 10/9/2009 5:36:39 AM | message detail |
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I consider myself a lone crusader for the Nintendo DS
Completion Project >_> I might just switch over to Gameboy Advance, y'know, since new games aren't coming out for that system every week and whatnot. I have been considering doing some DS games myself when I am not so busy. That said, I would say to lay off the GBA if you are going the route of the Nintendo handhelds. You will still get the occasional new FAQ for an uncovered game for the system, the system's still (relatively) new, and it seems to me that the general desire is to work on more retro systems, so the GB and GBC would be well enough (not to mention that the GBA would probably double if not triple the amount of time it would take to finish the project). --- Wish Upon a Darkstar |
TrulyDexterous | Posted 10/9/2009 7:47:10 AM | message detail |
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So uhh yeah, looks like the SMS is the favourite. It has a few positives. Namely, the lack of JP only games and the small(ish)
library of games left to complete. You may notice that a lot of the games
still requiring FAQs have versions out for the NES and Genesis. This can
also help the project move smoother. Plus, if we took on the SMS, it
would naturally progress onto the Genesis project, which has also
received some backing. I think we should have some kind of unofficial vote on this. Or at least a show of hands. If you'd be willing to contribute to an SMS Completion Project say so. Or raise your hand... |
ACowWithaDS | Posted 10/9/2009 12:08:07 PM | message detail |
| Eh, I would have to buy an SMS and that might take some time, but yeah I'd contribute if I ever get my hands on one. I refuse to buy emulators, so that's why I haven't contributed to the NES project, and I'm not going to buy an NES just for Japanese games and a Piano game. |
stahlbaum | Posted 10/9/2009 5:31:52 PM | message detail |
| buy emulators? |
selmiak | Posted 10/9/2009 7:41:56 PM | message detail |
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as impossible as it seems I like the C64. =P =D --- I don't care who your dad is! While I'm fishing here nobody walks over the water! www.selmiak.de.vu /// ...Wenn du das verstehst, besuche sofort Board 568011 |
FecalLord | Posted 10/10/2009 12:28:22 AM | message detail |
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I'd be interested in SMS alongside NES, I still look over NES
when I can to see if there's something I missed that would be doable, but
one more CP would be good too. --- "IF ALL ELSE FAILS USE FIRE" ~Zelda II "Sound levels can fool you." ~VirtualBoy manual |
BHodges080 | Posted 10/10/2009 2:06:40 PM | message detail |
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I agree that having a set time period for claims would be a
great idea, it would help keep the project moving and you could always
ask for an extension if you needed one. It would probably be a good idea
to have an official draft at the beginning of the project, three rounds,
you get one claim each round, maybe even have a drawing to determine pick order. How about an unofficial vote to get a feel of what everyone is thinking? Just copy & paste, write-ins welcome! Commodore 64 - 0 Famicon Disk System - 0 Game Boy/ GB Color - 0 Genesis - 0 Nintendo 64 - 1 Playstation - 0 Sega Master System - 0 Super Nintendo - 0 |
vinheim | Posted 10/10/2009 4:50:24 PM | message detail |
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Commodore 64 - 0 Famicon Disk System - 0 Game Boy/ GB Color - 0 Genesis - 0 Nintendo 64 - 1 Playstation - 0 Sega Master System - 1 Super Nintendo - 0 --- Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality. |